Anthony Grimes (Fairwinds)

Episode 52 · June 8th, 2020 · 51 mins 44 secs

About this Episode

In this episode, Kendall, rachel, and Anthony talk about:

  • Feeling late to the Black Lives Matter movement and going to Ferguson
  • Learning to lead national campaigns for peace
  • Realizing communication is about storytelling
  • Being seen, being heard, what it means to win
  • The need to inspire vision as a leader
  • Optimism vs hope
  • Finding affirmation in current events while still taking the long view
  • Managing frustrations and engaging in self-care
  • The idea of being "well-adjusted to injustice"
  • Meeting Cornel West (!) and mentorship from Dr. Vincent Harding (
  • The need to question authority, who benefits from it
  • Redefining profit to include greater context
  • Hope in future generations voting with their career choices
  • Leading "with" vs "over"
  • The joy of asking a ton of questions :)
  • What white people can do to join the movement and show support:
    • Get off the fence
    • Don't jump in unschooled, but don't wait until you think you know everything either
    • Don't assume your help will fix everything
    • Get used to being uncomfortable, exercise those muscles, grow
    • Don't let this moment pass you by
  • That Anthony's movie ( was chosen for the Tribeca Film Festival!
  • Missing going out and dancing, traveling

You can find Anthony at his website (, and on most social media as @antbuilder

Special thanks to Mel Stanley for our theme music <3